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De la: transmont fagaras trans_mont@yahoo.com [alpinet2k] <a...@yahoogroups.com>
Data: Vineri, 13 Oct 2017, 0:12
Subiect: Răspuns: [a] Re: Cum se putea și acum nu se mai poate – Om pe munt e
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N-am vazut vre-un cercetas cladind vre-o cabana, sau sa intretina o cabana.=
Ca si asociatie am avut doua initiative: 1 Salvarea cabanei Urlea=C2=A0, i=
ncercare esuata desi aproape trei ani, aproape saptamina de saptamina merg=
eam cu trupa la treaba acolo - perioada 2003 2006.2. Cabana Turnuri pe ca=
re am readus-o in circuitul turistic=C2=A0, asdministrata=C2=A0 in perioad=
a 2008 - 2009=C2=A0, de asemeni nereusita insa cabana functioneaza. Raspun=
sul la intrebarea de ce atunci se putea si acum nu, este ca atunci turisti=
erau interesati deiesirea in natura CIVILIZAT, iar daca nu erau ii puneu =
la punct Salvamontul si Cabanieri (de mesereie) Nu faceau ce vroiau toti i=
n munti sau in trasee.=C2=A0Nicolae Mercurean -presedinte=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Gabriela Polmolea - Vicepresedinte505200; Republicii=
6; Fagaras Brasov =E2=80=93 RomaniaTel.=C2=A00723177903- Nicolae Mercurea=
ne-mail: trans_mont@yahoo.comVrei sa ajuti pentru voluntariat si educatie =
ecologica? Doneaza =C2=A02%=C2=A0si vom face asta cu ajutorul vostru.. Pleas=
e consider the environment before printing this e-mail


De la: "codruta nedelcu kodruta@gmail.com [alpinet2k]" <alpinet2k@yah=
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C=C4=83tre: alpinet2k@yahoogroups.com=20
Trimis: Mar=C5=A3i, 10 Octombrie 2017 21: 43: 16
Subiect: Re: [a] Re: Cum se putea =C8=99i acum nu se mai poate =E2=80=93 O=
m pe munt e
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=C2=A0 ORICARE dintre noi, astia, "iubitorii de munte" mai vechi, ar inve=
sti intr-o cabana / refugiu (de fapt, daca ma gandesc bine, acesta era visu=
l meu inca de pe cand eram copil;) - daca ar avea de UNDE! Si cand spun as=
ta, nu ma gandesc numai la "investitia initiala" (cu problemele legate de p=
roprietarii terenurilor si maldarele de avize samd.) ci si la follow-up: ch=
eltuielile (extrem de diverse si cu foarte multe neprevazute) de intretiner=
e!=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
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Oricum: ii felicit pe Cercetasi pentru curaj! Si le urez sa se loveasca, de=
-a lungul timpului, de cat mai putine probleme si piedici!:)=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=20


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2017-10-09 15: 22 GMT+03: 00 mdp727@yahoo.com [alpinet2k] <alpinet2k@yahoogro=
ups.com>:

=C2=A0 Salut Radu!
Da, dar cine ii opreste pe cei care vor sa le foloseasca "pt cazare=C2=A0gr=
atis programata";?
>... cea mai mare parte dintre cabane nu PRODUC ci CONSUMA, fiid masiv > s=
ubventionate de cluburile alpine care le detin. Ideea ca o cabana turistica=
> montana de principiu ar trebui sa fie rentabila este o grava neinteleger=
e...
Ok, deci, daca bine inteleg explicatia ta, tu / CCN + alte cluburi din dome=
niu, ar trebui sa investiti "masiv" pt.a avea cabane in munti. De ce nu o f=
aceti? "Cum se putea =C8=99i acum nu se mai poate?" Pana la urma asta era i=
ntrebarea / problema...=C2=A0
Eu imi mentin ideea ca nu prea mai e nevoie, ca altfel ne adunam si strange=
am bani pt.ele. In Alpi chiar e nevoie de cabane & refugii. E alta situatie=
acolo.
In plus, pe vremuri doar elitele isi permiteau sa mearga pe munti, iar aces=
tia aveau grija de refugii/cabane. Acum oricine poate ajunge pe munte... D=
e aceea sunt/erau refugii secrete in Piatra Craiului. Cine mai are chef sa =
dea bani pt.ceva ce risca sa fie rapid invadat & degradat de "nechemati";?
Cele bune, Mircea Puia=20=20=20

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<div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>ORICARE dintre noi, astia, "iub=
itorii de munte" mai vechi, ar investi intr-o cabana / refugiu (de fapt, da=
ca ma gandesc bine, acesta era visul meu inca de pe cand eram copil;) - da=
ca ar avea de UNDE! Si cand spun asta, nu ma gandesc numai la "investitia i=
nitiala" (cu problemele legate de proprietarii terenurilor si maldarele de =
avize samd.) ci si la follow-up: cheltuielile (extrem de diverse si cu foar=
te multe neprevazute) de intretinere!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div>Oricum: ii felicit pe Cercetasi pentru curaj! Si le urez sa se lo=
veasca, de-a lungul timpului, de cat mai putine probleme si piedici!:)&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"non=
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<div></div><div class=3D"yiv2253836306m_-7061110106206589912ygroups-q=
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roups-quoted"><span class=3D"yiv2253836306class"></span><div id=3D"yiv22538=
36306m_-7061110106206589912ygrps-yiv-1868346276"><br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div id=3D"yiv2253836306m_-7061110106206589912ygrps-yiv-1868346276">Da, dar =
cine ii opreste pe cei care vor sa le foloseasca "<span style=3D"word-spaci=
ng: normal;">pt cazare</span><span style=3D"word-spacing: normal;">&nbsp;</sp=
an><span style=3D"word-spacing: normal;">gratis programata";?</span></div><di=
v id=3D"yiv2253836306m_-7061110106206589912ygrps-yiv-1868346276"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv2253836306m_-7061110106206589912ygrps-yiv-186=
8346276">&gt;... cea mai mare parte dintre cabane nu PRODUC ci CONSUMA, fi=
id masiv &gt; subventionate de cluburile alpine care le detin. Ideea ca o c=
abana turistica &gt; montana de principiu ar trebui sa fie rentabila este o=
grava neintelegere...</div><div id=3D"yiv2253836306m_-7061110106206589912=
ygrps-yiv-1868346276"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv2253836306m_-7=
061110106206589912ygrps-yiv-1868346276">Ok, deci, daca bine inteleg explica=
tia ta, tu / CCN + alte cluburi din domeniu, ar trebui sa investiti "masiv"=
pt.a avea cabane in munti. De ce nu o faceti? "Cum se putea =C8=99i acum n=
u se mai poate?" Pana la urma asta era intrebarea / problema...&nbsp;</div=
><div id=3D"yiv2253836306m_-7061110106206589912ygrps-yiv-1868346276"><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv2253836306m_-7061110106206589912ygrps-yiv-=
1868346276">Eu imi mentin ideea ca nu prea mai e nevoie, ca altfel ne aduna=
m si strangeam bani pt.ele. In Alpi chiar e nevoie de cabane &amp; refugii.=
E alta situatie acolo.</div><div id=3D"yiv2253836306m_-7061110106206589912=
ygrps-yiv-1868346276"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv2253836306m_-7=
061110106206589912ygrps-yiv-1868346276">In plus, pe vremuri doar elitele is=
i permiteau sa mearga pe munti, iar acestia aveau grija de refugii/cabane. =
Acum oricine poate ajunge pe munte... De aceea sunt/erau refugii secrete i=
n Piatra Craiului. Cine mai are chef sa dea bani pt.ceva ce risca sa fie ra=
pid invadat &amp; degradat de "nechemati";?</div><div id=3D"yiv2253836306m_-=
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=3D"yiv2253836306m_-7061110106206589912ygrps-yiv-1868346276">Cele bune,</di=
v><div id=3D"yiv2253836306m_-7061110106206589912ygrps-yiv-1868346276">Mirce=
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